The Tuck is destroying Ledge 8 mile thread.

[Spaz]

Sup motherfuckers.....figured this will need it's own thread ....

:tin:tyn2::tin:tyn2:

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

:happydance:

[milkman]

Let's get it on!

[FishMuskys]

Whoopty Fuckin' Do! :ned: :onlyjoking:

[The Butler]

The Illuminati put on the halftime show?

[FishMuskys]

When is Tuck callin'? I'm fadin' fast!

[Spaz]

The Illuminati put on the halftime show?

O_O

[milkman]

SHeesus, this guy is an expert on everything isn't he?? :rolleyes:

[FishMuskys]

The Illuminati put on the halftime show?

Of course. You just didn't open your mind up. Shit, you probably didn't even watch the halftime show...like the rest of us.

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

The Illuminati put on the halftime show?

:haha::jj:

[milkman]

Fuck this dude loves to hear himself talk!

[The Butler]

No, we didn't overthink it douchebag.

[FishMuskys]

Fuck this dude loves to hear himself talk!

What's he talkin' aboot? This fuckin' guy must sleep with the lights on.

[Spaz]

not sure .....

[1c]

Do me a favor folks and give me the heads up when T.C. is on..
Have to listen to Scotty the Monday after the Super Bowl.. TIA

[milkman]

What's he talkin' aboot? This fuckin' guy must sleep with the lights on.

He used to drive a Lumina, but it got stolen when he was watching the Superbowl in Egypt I think! :jj:

[FishMuskys]

He used to drive a Lumina, but it got stolen when he was watching the Superbowl in Egypt I think! :jj:

Oh, ok. I understand now. :grin:

[Spaz]

Is this dude still babbalin ...fuck !

[The Butler]

http://www.clker.com/cliparts/2/e/2/d/1237099802785615674nicubunu_Bell.svg.hi.png

[Spaz]

:dito:

[FishMuskys]

:lol:

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

hahaha thats a big bell

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

holy shit he needs to barrow mansons SHUT THE FUCK UP OK drop

[FishMuskys]

holy shit he needs to barrow mansons SHUT THE FUCK UP OK drop

Exactly what was goin' on in my head.:jj:

[FishMuskys]

I'd rather hear people smoke pot!

[The Butler]

Anyone that hates football is not to be trusted.

[milkman]

Especially when they analyze a shitty halftime show!

[FishMuskys]

:bigclap: Commercials.

[Spaz]

Especially when they analyze a shitty halftime show!

:brofist:

[SJ]

Anyone that hates football is not to be trusted.
:bitchplease:

[SJ]

Especially when they analyze a shitty halftime show!
I didn't watch the game or the halftime :jj:

I played mw3 all night lol

[The Butler]

:bitchplease:

I forgot the part about not being Canadian. Or an Eskimo.

[SJ]

I forgot the part about not being Canadian. Or an Eskimo.
the eskimo's are in alaska...

that's america bruthurrrrrrrrrrrr

[Spaz]

is this ledges hype music ?

[The Butler]

the eskimo's are in alaska...

that's america bruthurrrrrrrrrrrr

You have your share of natives.

[Chob]

:munch:

[Ski Lo]

Here we go...


Odds that Scott screams at least once?

[FishMuskys]

Tuck Time 1C!

[SJ]

You have your share of natives.
natives aren't eskimo's ;D

and I think you guys got plenty of them yourselves

[Spaz]

:munch:

[SJ]

:hmunch:

[milkman]

is this ledges hype music ?

So he thinks! Like it will impress Tuck! :jj:

[FishMuskys]

4th shit of the day!:woot:

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

4th shit of the day!:woot:

:bigclap::bigclap::bigclap:

[milkman]

4th shit of the day!:woot:

Damn son, you have dysentery or what? :jj:

[SJ]

4th shit of the day!:woot:
https://canv.as/ugc/original/787eadb37bc69ccc9b09b2ba09305f69cbe872c4.gif

Way to knock em down!

[milkman]

So Ledge comes out and tells Tuck he doesn't know how the US Gov is or what the CIA did?

[FishMuskys]

Damn son, you have dysentery or what? :jj:

6 ears of sweet corn with my turkey dinner yesterday.;D

[SJ]

here's an idea for the next superbowl butler

http://acidcow.com/pics/20120207/acid_picdump_33.jpg

[milkman]

Answer the fuckin question Ledge! Call records show the calls were made, oh of course the call records were created as well! :rolleyes:

[Chob]

TC is a smooth operator, he can pander with the best of them and you don't even realize he's buttering you up.

[Ski Lo]

Scott's getting a little heated it sounds...

[The Butler]

here's an idea for the next superbowl butler



Never made homemade pizza. Needs more cheese.

[Chob]

What about those alleged passports that somehow survived the plane crash and were found on the street? Fuckin' miracles. :jj:

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

Never made homemade pizza. Needs more cheese.

you should man there the best cause you can make them exactly how you want it. Making the dough and shit sucks though and it the hole process takes for ever its much easier to call pizza hut

[Spaz]

Scott's getting a little heated it sounds...

Defensive !

[Ski Lo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer

[milkman]

What about those alleged passports that somehow survived the plane crash and were found on the street? Fuckin' miracles. :jj:

Dude, having seen a big jet crash first hand, you would be surprised at things that survive to be found. Pictures from someones wallet, a part of an earing. It is crazy!

[Spaz]

Tuck is destroying ledge ...

[milkman]

hahaha, Ledge can't handle the TRUTH for a truther! :jj:

[PissJug]

I usually hate this kind of shit but all the hype got me listening

[milkman]

Ledge and his second hand knowledge doesn't cut it with Tuck! :jj:

[Ski Lo]

http://www.welcomethelight.com/2011/04/april-gallop-military-officer-pentagon-911-victim-sued-cheney-was-in-court-todaynews-blackout/

[Spaz]

Ledge has his stooolies digging stuff for him

[PissJug]

Tucker hangs up before 9:25

[milkman]

When my CIA handler, who is this cunt? Someone selling a book?

[1c]

Tucker hangs up before 9:25

He won't, He won't ever quit..

[The Butler]

He won't, He won't ever quit..

Bulldog........say it!

[Spaz]

Shes not even in the CIA ? :jj: she claimed it to be CIA in her book and Ledge fell for it :jj: i got this at Tuck 4 Ledge 0 so far .

[milkman]

There are LOTS of fiction books about 911! So Ledges stool pulls up this one and tries to sell it as fact? bwahahaha

[1c]

Bulldog........say it!

I'm embarrassed for Ledge here, T.C. is owning him..
Ledge is trying to hard..

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

fuck i should of made some tucker schooling ledge gifs for this

[Ski Lo]

Shes not even in the CIA ? :jj: she claimed it to be CIA in her book and Ledge fell for it :jj: i got this at Tuck 4 Ledge 0 so far .

It's where I see it as...

[Ski Lo]

I'm embarrassed for Ledge here, T.C. is owning him..
Ledge is trying to hard..

Yea.




Ledge needs a different approach..

[SJ]

I usually hate this kind of shit but all the hype got me listening
hey now PJ

[PissJug]

As much as I hate Tucker I'm on his side on this one. I haven't read up on these conspiracy theories but what exactly did the government gain by creating 9/11?

[PissJug]

hey now PJ

hey nooooooow :wave2:

[milkman]

Here he goes with more hearsay! I have seen videos that totally debunk these guys!

[SJ]

https://canv.as/ugc/processed/db75b559e9c6683fab8e09491ca67f53105567ec.jpeg

[Chob]

I feel like I'm back in the btls.com politics forum. :lol:

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

[Ski Lo]

Has anyone ever seen jumbo jets flying into buidings before???


How are they supposed to fall?!?!?!

[milkman]

SO these "experts" have also seen what happens when jetliners loaded with fuel fly into buildings many times as well right?

[SJ]

As much as I hate Tucker I'm on his side on this one. I haven't read up on these conspiracy theories but what exactly did the government gain by creating 9/11?
an excuse to change their laws without opposition under the guise of security

and a way to march into foreign lands just by proclaiming them terrorists...

[The Butler]

Has anyone ever seen jumbo jets flying into buidings before???


How are they supposed to fall?!?!?!

I saw that just last week. True story. I saw a video.

[PissJug]

https://canv.as/ugc/processed/db75b559e9c6683fab8e09491ca67f53105567ec.jpeg

:lol:

Never back a rattlesnake into a corner he'll come out strikin!!!!

[milkman]

Why does Ledge not ever play the "Experts" rebuttal to these videos?

[milkman]

LEdge gets excited hearing this stuff..Tuck gets bored, because it proves NOTHING! :jj:

[The Butler]

He just gonna play videos all hour?

[Ski Lo]

Is Scott getting all these clips off Zeitgeist or what?

[milkman]

Oh now this fuckin sidekick is gonna speak up? STFU and pull more shitty audio! :jj:

[1c]

Silly games, lol

[The Butler]

Dodge the question much?

[PissJug]

Brent has 14 tabs of Wiki open right now listening to this

[milkman]

What does this have to do with 911?

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

this is funny tuckers the fuckin man

[milkman]

Ledge is being a total dick when he has no real facts!

[1c]

What little respect I had for Ledge is gone..

[Spaz]

Ledge isn't answering the question ......he's trying to baffle Tuck with bullshit

[Spaz]

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh !!!!!

[milkman]

OUCH..BOOM Tuck!

[1c]

Oh snap!

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

IO uploaded the first hour of custerfuck twice http://th170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/alanp9/th_Mario_Facepalm.gif

[milkman]

Ledge better get that sand out of his vag! :jj:

[milkman]

IO uploaded the first hour of custerfuck twice http://th170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/alanp9/th_Mario_Facepalm.gif

Like there is a difference between hr 1 or hr 2? :jj:

[Spaz]

This is awesome !! Tuck is killing him

[Chob]

TC starting with the name calling is fucking weak.

[milkman]

Here goes Ledge with the 3rd grade defense!

[FishMuskys]

You are a moron!:grin:

[SJ]

IO uploaded the first hour of custerfuck twice http://th170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/alanp9/th_Mario_Facepalm.gif
O_O

a mariopalm?

[milkman]

TC starting with the name calling is fucking weak.

Not really calling him a name..said he was a moron on the subject..not like he called him a stoopid fuck, like we would do! :D

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

O_O

a mariopalm?


yea i never seen it before but i liked it

[Spaz]

TC starting with the name calling is fucking weak.

Not really ,it needs to be said . And im glad Tuck did it ,ledge has not presented a single shred of evidence much less a FACT !

[PissJug]

O_O

a mariopalm?

Mario's reaction to Luigi's Mansion?

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

Mario's reaction to Luigi's Mansion?

:jj:

[SJ]

Mario's reaction to Luigi's Mansion?
:wario:

[1c]

Bubba should fire this fucker for embarrassing his channels like this..

[milkman]

Oh yeah, can you imagine this guy telling you how the Giants won last night? hahaha

[PissJug]

If there is a conspiracy to look into I'd say check the Civil War I think it was rigged

[Chob]

Mario's reaction to Luigi's Mansion?
Luigi's Mansion was the shit.

[SJ]

Bubba should fire this fucker for embarrassing his channels like this..
calm down

you sound madder then me about football ;D

[SJ]

Luigi's Mansion was the shit.
don't you mean paper mario?

[milkman]

If there is a conspiracy to look into I'd say check the Civil War I think it was rigged

Ledge solved that one...it was in a civil war chess set..search for the answers! :D

[The Butler]

Lege is gonna to claim "running out of time" soon.

[Spaz]

Ledge solved that one...it was in a civil war chess set..search for the answers! :D

yeah ,turns out it wasnt made of puter but nano thermite .

[Chob]

don't you mean paper mario?
If I meant Paper Mario I would've said Paper Mario. Also a good game mind you.

[Ski Lo]

76'ers beat the Lakers 95-90

[Spaz]

76'ers beat the Lakers 95-90

It never happened .......haliburton ...

[SJ]

the history of history?

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

read the bubba army fan page you would think ledge is tearin tucker up

[PissJug]

Foley taking over as GM of RAW?

[milkman]

read the bubba army fan page you would think ledge is tearin tucker up

Cuz they are fuckin stoopid! :rolleyes:

[1c]

read the bubba army fan page you would think ledge is tearin tucker up

lol, What?

[SJ]

:rofl:

who just said he's gonna say he's running out of time?

good fucking call :crylol:

[Ski Lo]

Foley taking over as GM of RAW?

:HAHAHA:
Really?!?!?!

[Chob]

Foley taking over as GM of RAW?
I hope so.

[SJ]

Foley taking over as GM of RAW?
:foleypunch:

[1c]

I hope so.

Me too, That would be huge..;D

[PissJug]

Just a prediction I have no facts or youtube videos to prove or disprove

[The Butler]

:rofl:

who just said he's gonna say he's running out of time?

good fucking call :crylol:

:hw:

[Spaz]

Hundreds of floors of concrete collapsing on top of each other one after another explains the boomboomboom sounds AS it came down ...

[SJ]

ledge is like that kid that has no way to win so he just makes fun of something

"oohhhh he's running out the clock"

no if you weren't talking over him, you would hear that he's telling you his position.

[FishMuskys]

:waaa:

[Chob]

Just a prediction I have no facts or youtube videos to prove or disprove
Johnny Ace's office was lined with nanothermite.

[milkman]

This is a superbowl shutout! Tuck 35-0! Ledge missed on several FG's! :jj:

[SJ]

Hundreds of floors of concrete collapsing on top of each other one after another explains the boomboomboom sounds AS it came down ...
yeah I was gonna say that too...

and I'm a believer it was sabotaged but it could explain the sounds - it was live on fucking tv and there were no explosions from the lower floors first -

one thing people forget if demo'd building have no glass in them

if they detonated anything in that buildings later - those windows would have blown out when they detonated

[SJ]

man I can't spoke tonight

[1c]

This is a superbowl shutout! Tuck 35-0! Ledge missed on several FG's! :jj:

:bullshit:
Ledge never got the ball past the 50 yard line.. lol

[SJ]

tucker is saying you can question it - but don't pull shit out your ass

almost all the "evidence" in 9/11 is merely speculation and theory - there is no fucking evidence to study cause they hauled it away to a top secret location.

[Spaz]

one thing people forget if demo'd building have no glass in them

if they detonated anything in that buildings later - those windows would have blown out when they detonated

:bigthink: +5 SJ

[PissJug]

Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!

[The Butler]

tucker is saying you can question it - but don't pull shit out your ass

almost all the "evidence" in 9/11 is merely speculation and theory - there is no fucking evidence to study cause they hauled it away to a top secret location.

It's all at Area 51.

[milkman]

Now Ledge tries to put on a color page to get a rise out of his Bubba Army page sheeple! :jj:

[Spaz]

Oh ,they proved and have pictures of the clean up effort the guys using cutting tools on the beams ...that covers the steel beads found in the dust .

[PissJug]

Dude was saying Tucker was wasting time now he says We're Out Of Time!!!

[Chob]

Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!
:troof:

[Chob]

It's all at Area 51.
Hanger 18.

[PissJug]

Oh Area 51 now thats interesting conspiracy stuff

[milkman]

Turn off the mic Ledge! HE didn't call you names..he said your stance was being a moron, which means ignorant, as in not knowing! SO Ledge is going to say it's Tucks job why he is being like this?

[PissJug]

This Jericho/Punk feud is gonna be great! :bigclap:

[1c]

I'm guessing Brent ain't real happy with the way that went down..
Classy arguing ball busting makes for great radio..
Insulting a man like he's doing now , when he can't defend himself ain't cool..

[milkman]

Imagine that Ledge, he didn't fall for your bullshit, like you expect the sheeple that believe you to do? Ledge is daydreaming like he owned him!

[SJ]

Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!
wait - are you saying jericho brought the walls of the towers down? O_O

[The Butler]

It's on Wikipedia, it has to be true.

[The Butler]

Lege got owned and now he's spinning.

[milkman]

The funniest part is Ledge telling Tuck he won't be able to sleep tonight thinking about all this "new facts" ledge provided him! Ledge will be throwing things at the walls when he gets home!

[1c]

Lege got owned and now he's spinning.

This..

[PissJug]

wait - are you saying jericho brought the walls of the towers down? O_O

:bigthink:

[milkman]

Now Ledge is falling for that Swanson deal? :jj:

[Spaz]

Imagine that Ledge, he didn't fall for your bullshit, like you expect the sheeple that believe you to do? Ledge is daydreaming like he owned him!

Its funny Ledge says he dont take it personal ,yet his tone says otherwise ....

did he just say Tucks a swanson ? :crylol:

[SJ]

I gotta give it to tucker for sounding more professional...

usually tucker says the underhanded shit just to trip you up on your game, but tonight ledge really sounded kinda childish. Like "my facts are written in stone cause google said so alalalalalalalala I can't hear you alalalalalalalala"

[FishMuskys]

Thought you were out of time, Ledge? 15 min. of bein' a dick!

[SJ]

holy shit leger asked him a question - he was responding by asking leger what he actually knew about these foundations he was naming and tuck was telling him what they are.

:worfpalm:

[1c]

Thought you were out of time, Ledge? 15 min. of bein' a dick!

No shit, T.C. said he wished they had more time to rooon him...

[FishMuskys]

He called me a name He called me a name :getsome:

[Spaz]

Bullshit Ledge ..you used that shit as your "fact" and got landblasted

[milkman]

I gotta give it to tucker for sounding more professional...

usually tucker says the underhanded shit just to trip you up on your game, but tonight ledge really sounded kinda childish. Like "my facts are written in stone cause google said so alalalalalalalala I can't hear you alalalalalalalala"

Tuck on Bubba's show is more being a dick and smartass most of the time. but when he is doing interviews and shit, he gets people with their own logic, just like he did.

[Spaz]

holy shit leger asked him a question - he was responding by asking leger what he actually knew about these foundations he was naming and tuck was telling him what they are.

:worfpalm:

wow

[milkman]

No shit, T.C. said he wished they had more time to rooon him...

That was funny! Tuck="oh darn, wish I had more time to BBQ you" :jj:

[FishMuskys]

That was funny! Tuck="oh darn, wish I had more time to BBQ you" :jj:

mmm...BBQ!

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

that was pretty entertaining i must say

[1c]

Anyone follow tuck on twitter?
Curious if he'll even comment on what Ra-tard Ledge is..

[milkman]

Welp L8R folks! I can chuckle as I go to sleep now! :D

[SJ]

night milk

[Spaz]

later milk

[FishMuskys]

See ya Milk.

[The Butler]

Late milk. My Tuesday is gonna suck.

[Spaz]

Anyone follow tuck on twitter?
Curious if he'll even comment on what Ra-tard Ledge is..

I doubt it ...Ledge isn't worth mentioning really,but who knows.

[The Butler]

Now he's going to spend another 50 minutes bitching.

[1c]

Not well Shannon, lol..
Shannon Burke @TheShannonBurke Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
How do you guys think Ledge did with Tucker?

[Chob]

If you ask me, they both came off poorly a lot of the time, even though Ledge came off a hell of a lot worse. Carlson did fine but calling someone a "moron" is name calling no matter how you slice it, I don't care the reason why.

This is a microcosm of the country as a whole and it illustrates perfectly the reason you can't have a fucking conversation with anyone anymore about this subject. There's always people trying to control the conversation and not answering questions but trying to insist their questions get answered. Then people start in with the name calling. The art of having a civil conversation between people with opposing viewpoints is fucking dead. And Ledge says it's the kind of radio he likes. It's a straight up fucking embarrassment in my eyes.

As for Ledge, I like Ledge a lot, but debating isn't one of his strong suits and he uses videos and audio as crutches when by now he could be able to name facts, figures, names and dates by memory, while using the occasional clip to make a point. This has been one of my major complaints about him. Tell me yourself why you think something is the way it is, don't play a fucking clip. Ledge seriously needs to look at what happened there and reconsider things.

But yeah, I think Carlson came out on top which I'm not happy to say because I think he's a smarmy shill a lot of the time who's only a contrarian to get under people's skin. Props to him for being real unlike his Bubba show appearances.

Whatever, the whole thing just pisses me off and I'm back to talking about wrestling. :jj:

[Chob]

Apologies for the wall of text.

[The Butler]

Words.

[1c]

Words.

And a bunch of em:jj:

[Spaz]

If you ask me, they both came off poorly a lot of the time, even though Ledge came off a hell of a lot worse. Carlson did fine but calling someone a "moron" is name calling no matter how you slice it, I don't care the reason why.

This is a microcosm of the country as a whole and it illustrates perfectly the reason you can't have a fucking conversation with anyone anymore about this subject. There's always people trying to control the conversation and not answering questions but trying to insist their questions get answered. Then people start in with the name calling. The art of having a civil conversation between people with opposing viewpoints is fucking dead. And Ledge says it's the kind of radio he likes. It's a straight up fucking embarrassment in my eyes.

As for Ledge, I like Ledge a lot, but debating isn't one of his strong suits and he uses videos and audio as crutches when by now he could be able to name facts, figures, names and dates by memory, while using the occasional clip to make a point. This has been one of my major complaints about him. Tell me yourself why you think something is the way it is, don't play a fucking clip. Ledge seriously needs to look at what happened there and reconsider things.

But yeah, I think Carlson came out on top which I'm not happy to say because I think he's a smarmy shill a lot of the time who's only a contrarian to get under people's skin. Props to him for being real unlike his Bubba show appearances.

Whatever, the whole thing just pisses me off and I'm back to talking about wrestling. :jj:

:420ies:

[Chob]

I figured as much.

[1c]

I figured as much.

joking Well said..

[1c]

The more Ledge talks the more I hate him..

[1c]

Not taking calls????

[SJ]

Not taking calls????
don't hate - masturbate

[FishMuskys]

Enough for me. I learned nothing! :nuts:

[1c]

don't hate - masturbate

That will be the 6th time today, Try not to do more than 5 tops..

[The Butler]

Enough for me. I learned nothing! :nuts:

Yep. I'm out.

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

Tuckker VS Ledge

http://kingbubba.com/testmeup/wakaba/src/1328585594864.gif

[Chob]

joking Well said..
My point, if I have one, is that while that's good radio with some dumb racing hick or Ralphie May, having that kind of confrontation does a disservice to the topic they're discussing when trying to have a serious conversation. And what did you expect when the promos and hype surrounding the segment were advertised like a fight.

[The Butler]

Tuckker VS Ledge

http://kingbubba.com/testmeup/wakaba/src/1328585594864.gif

Well played.

[1c]

Tuckker VS Ledge

http://kingbubba.com/testmeup/wakaba/src/1328585594864.gif

Bwahahaha..
Dude tweet that out..

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

i dont have a twitter but any one here feel free to pass that around

[PissJug]

I've never seen so many damn commercials and PPV promos during a RAW what have there been 3 matches?

[1c]

i dont have a twitter but any one here feel free to pass that around

on it..

[Chob]

I like Ledge a lot, I think it's fair to say more than most on here. I think he raises a lot of important issues and some of his shows have had some of my favorite moments on radioIO. The NDE show stands out in my mind. I just think that was a wasted opportunity to get a dialogue going.

[Ulfric Stormcloak]

on it..

cool thanks :brofist:

[Spaz]

Tuckker VS Ledge

http://kingbubba.com/testmeup/wakaba/src/1328585594864.gif

:lol: thats fucking awesome !!!!

[PissJug]

Eric B. & Rakim - Juice (Know The Ledge) - YouTube

[milkman]

I ran into a wall of words! :thud:

[WadeJordan]

i just now listened to Ledge v Tucker, and to me Tuck being in a hotel room seemed more prepared the Ledge. Ledge came of bad. Even if all of what he was saying was 100 percent true, 98% of the people would go with Tucker

[SJ]

i just now listened to Ledge v Tucker, and to me Tuck being in a hotel room seemed more prepared the Ledge. Ledge came of bad. Even if all of what he was saying was 100 percent true, 98% of the people would go with Tucker
yeah you got a point - it wasn't so much what was said - but just the over-all tone of ledger and tuck that gave tuck the win I think.

[Mugsy]

I'm a little late on this, but here it goes.......

1. NO ONE owned the other, they were BOTH great radio
2. Ledge forgot wut he always says..."I just present things that raise questions, do your own research, make up your own mind"
3. Ledge also should have just raised questions wif Tuck, und not make the classic mistake that most of you hoomans make on forums. Just because someone has a different OPINION, they don't need to be convinced to think "your" way.

just mho;D